ActiveWin have This review of Microsoft Visual 2003. interesting read. i installed 2003 from the file on the MSDN on my 1.33gz athlon when it had 768mb ram and it took about half an hour. probably because i installed from disk. Anyway, when i get my laptop, ill probably install win2k with VS6 and for testing. hehe! [updateded 17.57] the link was off slightly.